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GreshamH {squat}
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:45 am Post subject: |
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I'll bring over the PAR meter next week
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bleedingthought {squat}
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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GreshamH wrote: | I'll bring over the PAR meter next week |
Please post results.
It would be nice if there was a quick/easy way to measure it without the lumenarcs, too! For comparison.
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bleedingthought {squat}
Joined: 21 Apr 2006 Posts: 2814 Location: Acworth, GA
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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Thales wrote: | Right side manifold and magnetic tool holder and various plumbing:
Left side manifold and various plumbing:
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I know I've constantly been full of questions for you.
But where could I get a manifold like that? And would they have
different setups like different number outlets and farther/closer
apart?
And how well do those locline valves work? And are they cheaper than 13 bucks anywhere? (marinedepot has them for $13)
Thanks in advance, yet again!
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Thales Site Admin
Joined: 14 Nov 2001 Posts: 14042 Location: in a Quantum Biologist
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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No problem, thats what RDO is for!
I am not aware of anyplace that makes manifolds like that. I made
'em myself. I lucked out in that 5 3/4 inch t's ended up being a length
I could use.
The locline valves are ok, but the only reason I actually felt
comfortable using them (or any locline for that matter) was because
they were over the tank or the tanks perimeter bracing. So, if they did
drip leak, the water would drop into the tank instead of onto the
floor.
I got my locline and valves from www.modularhose.com , but I don't remember what I paid.
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bleedingthought {squat}
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, I didn't even realize the seams on the manifold! Nice!
I like how small those valves are and can't think of anything remotely
close to that size. Since the tank will be open top, the valves would
be showing. That link doesn't work, though.
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Thales Site Admin
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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The link works now - the comma was too close to the .com!
I was really happy I got to use the valves. If I had to do it with
regular valves I polly would have put the manifold behind the tank.
Ewwww.
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bleedingthought {squat}
Joined: 21 Apr 2006 Posts: 2814 Location: Acworth, GA
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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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GreshamH wrote: | I'll bring over the PAR meter next week |
Did you guys ever measure this?
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bleedingthought {squat}
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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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Also, any specific reason why both actinic bulbs are on the front? Does it make a difference?
You know, I can't get over how much I like the overall color of your
tank. It's decided, I'm going with XM 20kks (the lumenarcs too, of
course) and use either 2 or 4 of my VHOs for actinics, just like
yourself.
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Thales Site Admin
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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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We haven't had a chance to measure the PAR.
I put the actinics up front so they cast their light on the parts of
the tank and corals that I can see. Since the actinics are mostly for
my eye, I place them where they benefit my eye the most.
I am actually thinking of replacing my lumenarcs with .... dual
lumanrics! There would be two blubs in each hood. I talked them about
it, and they don't think it will impact the reflection too much. The
sockets would parallel opposite sides of the top squares of the
reflector. I would run the 20 k xm 400's and some kind of 10 k 250. The
10 would only be on an hour or two, just for growth. I'm just deciding
if I want to really do it, and if I really want to spend the extra
money.
RR
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bleedingthought {squat}
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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm, interesting. Are you not happy with the growth you're getting currently?
By the way, have you ever used the mini lumenarcs? That's actually
probably the route I'm taking to save on some space. The std ones might
be too big for the canopy.
And, which direction to you run your MH bulbs? Parallel or opposite the way the tank 'runs'?
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trido {squat}
Joined: 13 Dec 2005 Posts: 1937 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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The
link for the locline parts is considerably less expensive than MD. I
modeled my CL (and tank) from this system. The loclines and adjustable
valves are well worth the money spent because I can back off flow in
certain areas as corals grow larger and increase flow in other areas.
Also the ability to add or remove a few segments, and the infinate
control of direction per nozzels makes for easy, rooky, learn as you go
adjustments.
I just hooked up some luminarc Black vented pendants (14.5"x14.5").
Because of my only having 250s I dont feel comfortable raising my MH as
shown above. I am unable to put two actinics in the front to get a
better actinic glow on my corals. If only you had warned me Thales.
BT, (or anyone for that matter) if you want a reef that works. Build
your system like this one and practice good reef husbandry. Your almost
guaranteed to get great growth. Disclaimer: Not eveyone has a knack for keeping aquariums
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The Escaped Ape {squat}
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 4:20 am Post subject: |
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trido wrote: | BT,
(or anyone for that matter) if you want a reef that works. Build your
system like this one and practice good reef husbandry. Your almost
guaranteed to get great growth. Disclaimer: Not eveyone has a knack for keeping aquariums |
This and Len's thread are mentally filed for my future use.
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Thales Site Admin
Joined: 14 Nov 2001 Posts: 14042 Location: in a Quantum Biologist
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:17 am Post subject: |
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bleedingthought wrote: | Hmm, interesting. Are you not happy with the growth you're getting currently? |
Never!
I was happiest with color and growth when I ran a mix of 10 and 20 250
de bulbs. Since going back to that mix is not all that expensive, I
will prolly get around to it.
Quote: | By
the way, have you ever used the mini lumenarcs? That's actually
probably the route I'm taking to save on some space. The std ones might
be too big for the canopy. |
Nope!
Quote: | And, which direction to you run your MH bulbs? Parallel or opposite the way the tank 'runs'? |
Currently perpendicular. If I change to the dual socket lumenarc, it will be parallel.
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bleedingthought {squat}
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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Thales wrote: | bleedingthought wrote: | And, which direction to you run your MH bulbs? Parallel or opposite the way the tank 'runs'? |
Currently perpendicular. If I change to the dual socket lumenarc, it will be parallel. |
And does that make a difference either way?
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Thales Site Admin
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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I don't believe so. Most people run them perpendicular because then the socket cord leads to the back of the tank. If I had the doubles, they would have to lead to the sides.
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Thales Site Admin
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:30 am Post subject: |
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Matt is a genius!
I did his 'loc line to vinyl tubing at the surface so you don't see the
returns' to my tank with awesome results. Not only is the view less
obstructed by there is more light on the sides of the tank. Nice Matt!
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trido {squat}
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 8:46 am Post subject: |
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With ten loclines myself, I have been considering this.
What size of vinyl tubing did you use and can I see a pic from topside?
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Thales Site Admin
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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3/4 inch locline with 3/4 inch round nozzle and 1 1/4 inch vinyl tubing. I'll get some up top pics soon.
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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Thales wrote: | Matt is a genius!
I did his 'loc line to vinyl tubing at the surface so you don't see the
returns' to my tank with awesome results. Not only is the view less
obstructed by there is more light on the sides of the tank. Nice Matt! |
All right!
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trido {squat}
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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I was just looking at your awesome tank pics again and thought to my self, "Thales, have you counted the number of colonies you have in there lately?"
So have you?
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